Comments for How Does the NYT Determine Which Spending is "Deficit Bloating?" at http://www.cepr.net , comment 1 to 11 out of 11 comments http://www.cepr.net Wed, 22 May 2013 11:23:11 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/how-does-the-nyt-determine-which-spending-is-qdeficit-bloatingq#comment-1639 Everything we hear about extending UI today is what we heard about welfare "reform" in the 1980s and 1990s. We are not/never were a full-employment nation. There are winners and losers, and we did decide that the losers weren't our responsibility. We embraced the YOYO ("you're on your own") social model, and now we are stuck with it. People say that there is a difference because workers pay for UI. In fact, over 80% of welfare recipients received aid for well under 5 years, returning to work, earning wages and paying taxes which repaid every penny of aid they had received. Welfare was social insurance. But we decided that helping people hurts them, and providing a check is a solid disincentive to finding work. We actually do hear former middle class Americans today insist that they've been looking for a job for a very long time, but then add that they can't find anything that pays as much as their former jobs. What the...? We made it clear that people must be willing to accept ANY job they can get, and if one job doesn't meet their needs, then they need to work two or three jobs. We got what we asked for. - DHFabian Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:13:35 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/how-does-the-nyt-determine-which-spending-is-qdeficit-bloatingq#comment-1576 The only time Republicans care about adding to the deficit is when the Democrats propose it. Even though they complained about the TARP bailout, their complaints didn't include how it would affect the deficit until Obama was inaugurated. Now they've decided that anything that adds to the deficit - even unemployment benefits, for cryin' out loud - is a slap in the face to fiscal responsibility. That the NYT goes along with this foolishness is a pretty ominous sign the Grey Lady is lapsing into dimentia. - Queen of Sheba Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:13:07 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/how-does-the-nyt-determine-which-spending-is-qdeficit-bloatingq#comment-1572 Hey Dean, what are your thoughts on the feud between Elizabeth Warren and Timothy Geithner? These are two high profile people with radically different philosophies, similar to Rumsfeld and Powell. Geithner, a disciple of Summers, Rubin, and Greenspan, is an advocate for the free market being faultless and anything we do to police it only does more damage than good. Warren is one that believes corporate greed and arrogance is self destructive for unregulated companies and also destroying the people in this country by creating a two-class system. Geithner wants to hide bank losses and Warren wants to expose them. This is some real reporting at work here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-r-talbott/the-real-reason-geithner_b_650403.html#postComment And it is an issue that will shape the future of bank regulation in the U.S. for some time to come. - Chad Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:19:22 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/how-does-the-nyt-determine-which-spending-is-qdeficit-bloatingq#comment-1570 Arizona: The state really has grown on the basis of growth http://www.wilypython.net/The state really has grown on the basis of growth.php - Scott ffolliott Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:13:10 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/how-does-the-nyt-determine-which-spending-is-qdeficit-bloatingq#comment-1568 The most telling feature of articles like this, of the endless advice from the "experts" who created the financial crisis, and of political rhetoric is that [i][b]not one even vaguely hints at cutting military spending[/b][/i]. - Hugh Sansom Sun, 18 Jul 2010 06:21:26 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/how-does-the-nyt-determine-which-spending-is-qdeficit-bloatingq#comment-1567 Bury the New York Times and then pay people [i]not[/i] to dig it up. - M31 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 05:38:33 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/how-does-the-nyt-determine-which-spending-is-qdeficit-bloatingq#comment-1566 Bury the New York Times (except Gretchen Morgenson) and then pay people to dig it up. - Union Member Sun, 18 Jul 2010 04:27:38 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/how-does-the-nyt-determine-which-spending-is-qdeficit-bloatingq#comment-1565 The New York Times must be reporting what they hear on NPR. My sources tell me - anonymously - that we should bury the NYT and pay people to dig it up. - Union Member Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:47:30 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/how-does-the-nyt-determine-which-spending-is-qdeficit-bloatingq#comment-1563 Carlos Slim should have just let the NYT go bankrupt. - purple Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:18:39 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/how-does-the-nyt-determine-which-spending-is-qdeficit-bloatingq#comment-1562 Thanks for the post. Spot on, as usual. What would it take to get Dean Baker a column in the NYT, I wonder. - Pete Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:36:01 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/how-does-the-nyt-determine-which-spending-is-qdeficit-bloatingq#comment-1560 Republican: See those freeloaders on unemployment benefits, instead of looking for work they're bloating the deficit on the backs of future taxpayers. Democrat: There's no jobs, they're spending what they get which supports demand for those who do have jobs, which prevents tax revenue to the government from falling even more. How's that bloating the deficit instead of keeping it from getting even larger? Republican: You've got it all backwards. Once people expect a free lunch financed by others through big government transfers, the private sector shuts down. It can't compete with government and it can't afford the taxes to fund the freeloaders. That's why there's no demand. I learned this as a private contractor in Iraq, where we sold sand to the Pentagon by importing it into the country which created plenty of spending to maintain full employment. We called it Freedom Sand because it kept us free of a deep recession. That's how we got the contract, by convincing the Pentagon if it tried to get sand from within Iraq using its own employees, it would crowd out private contractors and cause a deep recession. - izzatzo Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:49:54 +0100