Comments for The New York Times Is Confused: It Thinks That President Obama and Governor Romney are Philosophers at http://www.cepr.net , comment 1 to 8 out of 8 comments http://www.cepr.net Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:48:58 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/the-new-york-times-is-confused-it-thinks-that-president-obama-and-governor-romney-are-philosophers#comment-19307 Neoliberalism just got outed by Romney. The problem is that it's about the same as neoconservatism. So Romney won't be able to snatch all the middle back, but he nullified much of the political clout of Obama's "centrist" compromises. Big Bird gets shot by the NRA. - David Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:04:56 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/the-new-york-times-is-confused-it-thinks-that-president-obama-and-governor-romney-are-philosophers#comment-19305 "Governor Romney surely knows that the price of gas is determined on world markets and the U.S. government's actions have little or no impact on it." while it's generally true, at this paticular moment, it's not. one could mention that the crippling(also cruel and useless) sanctions on Iran, make so 2m barells a day of Iranian oil never reach the market. one can also add that the repeated threats of attack, motivates traders(and speculators) to push for eve higher prices. - MO Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:48:11 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/the-new-york-times-is-confused-it-thinks-that-president-obama-and-governor-romney-are-philosophers#comment-19303 they don't have any real belief in much of anything, except maybe a little religious belief. but both support corporate america shafting of the poor & middle class 100%. romney just wants to turn america into a corporatacracy whereby everything in america is totally geared for the wealthy. obama is a me too conservative democrat, basically believing the exact same thing romney does, he just has to pretend to care about we the people. obama is sort of like gore & kerry, he can't say anything that will offend wallstreet. he knows he may lose, but the bigger issue with him is to not end up like jimmy carter. you'll never hear obama criticise israel like carter does. no, obama, if he has to lose, wants to be just like bill clinton. go to those chamber of commerce, or big oil meetings, or big pharma meetings, anywhere where the uber wealthy congregate. 100k to give a 30 minute comedy routine praising corporate chieftans is pretty good pay. that's what he'll do if he loses. romney, if he loses? why he's made more business connections during his run than he ever made at bain. he'll just go on to become a billionaire like his idols, the kochs. - mel in oregon Thu, 04 Oct 2012 12:57:28 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/the-new-york-times-is-confused-it-thinks-that-president-obama-and-governor-romney-are-philosophers#comment-19302 To the extent that such a debate would take place, it would have no practical effects on the Legislative Process. - Donald Pretari Thu, 04 Oct 2012 12:52:32 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/the-new-york-times-is-confused-it-thinks-that-president-obama-and-governor-romney-are-philosophers#comment-19296 Right on Dean...2 parties captured, for sure. To really talk philosophy, you need candidates who have some consistency and perhaps differ. For example, the simple philosophy that I have no right to run your life. That the use of force by the government should be significantly curtailed. That we should not subsidize Exxon by having troops in the Middle East and building highways to the suburbs. That we should not tell folks what chemicals they may ingest. And so forth. Candidates with philosophy's are rare. Fortunately, in most states there is no "wasting a vote" by voting Libertarian, or Green, or whatever, since the Reds and Blues are so dominant. I would encourage all in non "battleground" states to dump the two parties this time, since as was pointed out recently on NPR, their "5 point plans" are nearly identical...Obama's different since his #5 included killing civilians with drones. - pete Thu, 04 Oct 2012 06:10:52 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/the-new-york-times-is-confused-it-thinks-that-president-obama-and-governor-romney-are-philosophers#comment-19294 It's just political theater. Both candidates pretend to disagree, when they they really don't. To pretend that there is a choice in this election is a complete sham. - Ellis Thu, 04 Oct 2012 05:46:34 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/the-new-york-times-is-confused-it-thinks-that-president-obama-and-governor-romney-are-philosophers#comment-19284 Even - or maybe especially - non-philosophers can be influenced by past (or even present) philosophies: it's by philosophizing that (perhaps) we escape those influences. But you make some good points contra both camps! - Stephen Clark Thu, 04 Oct 2012 01:34:31 +0100 http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/the-new-york-times-is-confused-it-thinks-that-president-obama-and-governor-romney-are-philosophers#comment-19282 Knowing he would be attacked for not explaining where tax revenue would come from in his tax reduction plan for the rich thus increasing the deficit, combined with the perception (and reality) that the middle class would be worse off if he was President, Romney came out swinging for the middle class, ranting repeatedly that his plan was to reduce taxes for middle class America, claiming it would grow the economy enough to reduce the deficit. It's good to know Romney has rejected the usual trickle down argument, replaced by a new version of voodoo supply side economics that claims tax cuts for the middle class will pay for themselves rather than the usual claim made for tax cuts to the wealthy. It's a reversal of the trickle up economics that created the ultra wealthy by upward redistribution. It's still trickle up economics but now it effectively means according to Romney, that job creators are actually in the middle class and therefore support the upper and lower classes by giving them jobs. It may not be philosophy but for economic purposes it certainly qualifies as the highest form of voodoo witchcraft. - Last Mover Thu, 04 Oct 2012 00:59:40 +0100